Definitely out of the way and you will think you're lost but once you're here it doesn't get much better for dispersed camping. I barely have LTE T-Mobile service at my site but its enough to post this review so good enough. Not much for down trees and such so firewood is a bit tricky to come by and there is an outside wood ban in effect which means if you're bringing your own wood into the forest you're putting the forest at risk of infestation.