This is my favorite place. It is quite very excluded their is outhouses at all three campsite. Unfortunately they are normally filled with bugs, but still its a crapper. From buttom to top it is an 18 mile primitive dirt road. The road can be washed out in places rocks so a small care can bottom out and road is extremely narrow in some spots it not even enough room for two compact cars to pass let alone two bid trucks. I own a checy suburban which has 4x4 no you do not need 4x4 but I suggest it During the snow and monsoon season. This is not a place to bring a travel trailer **MAYBE** a small pop-up or a frame but really weight the options on that too, because the road is very narrow and their is a lot of hair pin turns during the 18 mile drive and you have to think about others coming down need room to get around you. There is no railing on this road either and their is a lot of drop off the plummet straight down into a valley. You will start off from desert land scape and end in alpine, pine, oak and just pristine beauty of Arizona high county.