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Not a good place at all, no longer allowing families to live there, nor first time campers, won't let people with families help as a camp worker. Workers are bitterly rude. They charge now extra for golf carts, and charge extra if you have kids. They try and compare themselves to southern states that have excellent views and reviews. Which that place has neither. Was there a yr and was very miserable. To many chiefs and not enough indians. Everybody plays boss and nobody is on the same page. Was a great place ten yrs ago. Now it's not worth going to, and the ponds constantly dry up.