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There is a lot of up and down on this trail. If you want to do the loop at the end of Pakard Lake, I suggest you try finding the start of the loop going clockwise. Going counter-clockwise, the trail deteriorates after the second to last lake, with lots of downed trees. There are several lakes and small ponds. There is a burned area. You get better visibility of the surrounding mountains in this section. The start of the trail goes down so the end of the trail goes up.