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Not sure why the roads condition is meriting bad reviews on this. The road is not for those scared of heights but the views while on the road as well as on top of Horsemans Flata are breathtaking. My fiance and I love Initial Creek CG since there is rarely any crowds and you can get some true peace and quiet. A simple 4WD or AWD vehicle can handle the road, it doesnt even have to be lifted. And if that's the price for ditching the crowds and loud folks, then it's a good price to pay for those seeking some solitude!