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You don't really need 4x4 to get up there,I made it up with a 99 front wheel drive expedition.The views are beautiful since you can see 360 degrees at some points,there's only about 4 camp sites but if full people don't mind if u make your own...you can ride this trail from hemet to little Tomas mtn too.....people please keep it clean. I posted a photo of the hemet lake side during our winter in 2023 Feb.