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Absolutely breath taking up there (literally the allititude, if you are not users to it)! Twenty miles from the base of the mountain to paradise! We stayed 3 nights and will be coming back! Lots of rain this time of year. We also saw several deer and other creepy crawlies. The group site has bear boxes and tables, we actually choose an undeveloped site (nothing but a rock ring). All trash must be packed out.