This 11.5 mile hike was BRUTAL. It's very challenging. We did both the summits and it took 8 hrs. There are 3 rope climbs that no joke you need the rope to go up or down...HIGHLY RECOMMEND going counter clockwise, which is the way we went thank God I can't imagine climbing up the ropes.. if you go clock wise all 3 rope climbs are up...if you go counter clockwise your using the ropes to go down still very hard but much easier then up!!!