It is an awesome trail to the Upper Palisades lake. It has many rocks and roots on the way there. The trail sometimes gets pretty narrow. There is many ups and downs on the way yet the whole road goes gradually up. We brought a wagon to carry our stuff which make it almost impossible to make it but we did it within 9 hours to get up and 7 to get down. Never take wagon there! Without it expect to get to the Upper lake within 4-5 hours.